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A good guy down range with a concealed firearm isn't going to take it out when down range and shoot back. A crazy person would do that, and rules or not, the crazy person will do whatever a crazy person does. I think it's silly to not allow CC at a range.
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Ryan, I was thinking about a class room environment in a gun shop. A holstered weapon to me is like a encased weapon. And Mike is certainly correct about crazy people. I think it may have to do with insurance reasons. Some range rules are in my mind are silly. Like the one round in a rifle, and 5 in a pistol. Why 5? is that safer than 4 or 6?
All I am saying, is the range and gun store owner can set whatever policies they want. I am sure that insurance companies might dictate policies I think are goofy.
All I am saying, is the range and gun store owner can set whatever policies they want. I am sure that insurance companies might dictate policies I think are goofy.
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I agree, class room setting is not a place for loaded guns.
I do understand the one round rule. Being open to the public, they never know the experience of the shooter. The incident with the 9 year old girl and the Uzi would have never happened if they had a one round rule.
Hence the reason, if RDA ever gets big ranges, we will try to have some type of access card to get you to the sections where you can do more. Once you've proven yourself, you can have more than one round.
I do understand the one round rule. Being open to the public, they never know the experience of the shooter. The incident with the 9 year old girl and the Uzi would have never happened if they had a one round rule.
Hence the reason, if RDA ever gets big ranges, we will try to have some type of access card to get you to the sections where you can do more. Once you've proven yourself, you can have more than one round.
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I find round restrictions on semi-automatics silly, period. I find most other rules (rate of fire) etc, to be reasonable. To me it defeats some of the reasons to go to a range, if you cannot fire a couple rounds in rapid succession on a target. I'd say 2-3 rounds is reasonable. With the cost of ammunition today, people are not wasting rounds at the range.
If you are firing full auto, 4 rounds make sense. Even when expecting muzzle creep it still happens.
If you are firing full auto, 4 rounds make sense. Even when expecting muzzle creep it still happens.
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Having that one round rule would kill a range before it started.
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(10-09-2014, 10:28 AM)mikereddot Wrote: A good guy down range with a concealed firearm isn't going to take it out when down range and shoot back. A crazy person would do that, and rules or not, the crazy person will do whatever a crazy person does. I think it's silly to not allow CC at a range.
I wouldn't believe it has anything to do with a crazy person. I would believe it's more to remove the possibility of a accidental discharge. Not having any hot guns on the line. You can have the gun there you can shoot it. It just needs to be cased until you get to the line. And unloaded during the firing break. Also remember the have a whole housing development built around the who are looking fir reasons to shut them down
(10-09-2014, 10:28 AM)mikereddot Wrote: A good guy down range with a concealed firearm isn't going to take it out when down range and shoot back. A crazy person would do that, and rules or not, the crazy person will do whatever a crazy person does. I think it's silly to not allow CC at a range.
I wouldn't believe it has anything to do with a crazy person. I would believe it's more to remove the possibility of a accidental discharge. Not having any hot guns on the line. You can have the gun there you can shoot it. It just needs to be cased until you get to the line. And unloaded during the firing break. Also remember the have a whole housing development built around the who are looking fir reasons to shut them down
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I didn't say it's the way to go, just that I understand it. When going to the range with new students, first thing I want to see is how they grip the firearm. If I get the feeling that they are not comfortable, I get them to put one round. If all looks good, start with 5. The 5 rule is so they don't run out of ammo.
With only one round, I don't have to worry about what happens once they fire that one shot. Again, I'm watching them, and once I'm comfortable with how they are handling, we change it to 5. The reason Bristol does it, is because they don't have enough eyes to watch all shooter. They really need to get around that fear.
Completely takes the fun out of shooting an AR
With only one round, I don't have to worry about what happens once they fire that one shot. Again, I'm watching them, and once I'm comfortable with how they are handling, we change it to 5. The reason Bristol does it, is because they don't have enough eyes to watch all shooter. They really need to get around that fear.
Completely takes the fun out of shooting an AR
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The one round rule is a major pain. You are right it sucks shooting any semi auto rifle. And I think it inadvertently gives people the bad habit if not working the bolt in a full cycle. There is a little too much of an emphasis on straight target shooting, which to me is the most pointless shooting sport.
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I agree that straight target shooting is a little boring. My buddies and I bet on it, adds interest. But it sure would be nice to be able to shoot prone, or draw and shoot, and the magazine restrictions on semi-automatic are still silly in my opinion. New shooters/training is different scenario. Then that may make sense. Still, in a rifle, muzzle creep is much lower. I find such rules to be plain silly. Especially for a bolt action rifle that is magazine fed. And for an M1 Garand it is down right stupid.
The best way to show displeasure is to let them know you will not return and encourage anyone else not to go there. Once they close up, maybe someone with brains will reopen their range.
The best way to show displeasure is to let them know you will not return and encourage anyone else not to go there. Once they close up, maybe someone with brains will reopen their range.
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The problem with that is I don't know who would open it. The shotgun range is a ok in my book, and it's close. I try to take the good with the bad. I just cycle the bolt regardless. I have gotten really good at unloadingvand reloading my ak. And I am pretty sure on the 100 yard line you can shoot prone kneeling I just think you need to ask the RO. It's not perfect but it's affordable and I can shoot every weekend
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(10-09-2014, 11:28 AM)RJDSRT Wrote: Having that one round rule would kill a range before it started.
AGREED. I'd like to see a range whereby you can draw and fire. Where prone shooting is allowed, there say 3 round rapid fire is allowed. And it sure would be nice during deer season to have a scope zeroing range of some kind set up.
(10-09-2014, 11:28 AM)RJDSRT Wrote: Having that one round rule would kill a range before it started.
AGREED. I'd like to see a range whereby you can draw and fire. Where prone shooting is allowed, there say 3 round rapid fire is allowed. And it sure would be nice during deer season to have a scope zeroing range of some kind set up.
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That would be a nice place to go. I'm sure it'll be tough to find any such place, let alone to make one.
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(10-09-2014, 12:21 PM)BelieveIn308 Wrote: (10-09-2014, 11:28 AM)RJDSRT Wrote: Having that one round rule would kill a range before it started.
AGREED. I'd like to see a range whereby you can draw and fire. Where prone shooting is allowed, there say 3 round rapid fire is allowed. And it sure would be nice during deer season to have a scope zeroing range of some kind set up.
Bristol does allow prone shooting and timed fire as long as you check with the RO first.
(10-09-2014, 12:21 PM)BelieveIn308 Wrote: (10-09-2014, 11:28 AM)RJDSRT Wrote: Having that one round rule would kill a range before it started.
AGREED. I'd like to see a range whereby you can draw and fire. Where prone shooting is allowed, there say 3 round rapid fire is allowed. And it sure would be nice during deer season to have a scope zeroing range of some kind set up.
Bristol does allow prone shooting and timed fire as long as you check with the RO first.
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Thanks for that update. There you go Mr. B308.
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So what is Bass Pro's policy concerning shooting your CCW firearm? Can I go in and check-in at the front door to get my range bag locked up and then proceed to the range counter to get it unlocked while keeping my CCW in my holster the whole time...and then enter the range, unholster and clear my self defense ammo, load up my range ammo and begin to shoot? Then when done can I load up with my self defense ammo, reholster and leave?
Or is shooting your actual CCW not allowed and you have to keep it holstered the entire time while in the store and range?
Or is shooting your actual CCW not allowed and you have to keep it holstered the entire time while in the store and range?
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Yesterday I checked in my Sig and the Shield stayed concealed. I shot both, the guy in the lane next to me did the same thing. I guess my question would be what if you only wanted to shoot your EDC? Would they need to check that in???
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(10-25-2014, 12:10 PM)largefarva Wrote: So what is Bass Pro's policy concerning shooting your CCW firearm? Can I go in and check-in at the front door to get my range bag locked up and then proceed to the range counter to get it unlocked while keeping my CCW in my holster the whole time...and then enter the range, unholster and clear my self defense ammo, load up my range ammo and begin to shoot? Then when done can I load up with my self defense ammo, reholster and leave?
Or is shooting your actual CCW not allowed and you have to keep it holstered the entire time while in the store and range?
largefarva, you keep your CCW on you at all times within Bass Pro. You check in at the front desk and let them know you are a CCW holder. They will lock your bag and then you go up to the range. When your at the upstairs range counter you let them know your a CCW holder and they will unlock your bag. They will then check your FOID and CCW cards.
Once on the range in your lane you may withdraw your CCW firearm and proceed to use it.
When your done at the range, reload with self defense ammo and exit the range. Check out upstairs and basically everything is reverse.
The only time you handle your CCW firearm is on the range in your lane. 
I have done this many times.
Hope this helps.
BTW Any additional firearms you bring in besides your CCW will need to be locked at the lower front desk.
(10-25-2014, 12:10 PM)largefarva Wrote: So what is Bass Pro's policy concerning shooting your CCW firearm? Can I go in and check-in at the front door to get my range bag locked up and then proceed to the range counter to get it unlocked while keeping my CCW in my holster the whole time...and then enter the range, unholster and clear my self defense ammo, load up my range ammo and begin to shoot? Then when done can I load up with my self defense ammo, reholster and leave?
Or is shooting your actual CCW not allowed and you have to keep it holstered the entire time while in the store and range?
largefarva, you keep your CCW on you at all times within Bass Pro. You check in at the front desk and let them know you are a CCW holder. They will lock your bag and then you go up to the range. When your at the upstairs range counter you let them know your a CCW holder and they will unlock your bag. They will then check your FOID and CCW cards.
Once on the range in your lane you may withdraw your CCW firearm and proceed to use it.
When your done at the range, reload with self defense ammo and exit the range. Check out upstairs and basically everything is reverse.
The only time you handle your CCW firearm is on the range in your lane.
I have done this many times.
Hope this helps.
BTW Any additional firearms you bring in besides your CCW will need to be locked at the lower front desk.
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Ok cool....so it sounds a lot like On Target's policy. You can unholster, shoot and then load up and reholster your CCW firearm. That is definitely a good policy I can agree with. And only having to pay $8 for half an hour while not paying a membership fee? That sounds pretty good in my opinion too. How much is it for a full hour? I'm assuming around $15-16 which is still better than most places in this area. Now the only drawback is finding time to make an appointment and go there. I'll have to give it a shot sometime. (pun intended) 
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Weekends aren't bad if you can call early and get a reservation. I don't remember if they take them more then a day ahead of time or not. Would have to call and find out.
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I have made reservations out over a week in advance. The problem is that you need to remember that you made it.
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