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The suspect behind yet another movie theater shooting was declared dead after opening fire on a police officer early Wednesday afternoon in a Nashville, Tennessee, suburb.
Officers from the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department responded to reports of a man with a gun and a hatchet inside a showing of "Mad Max" at the Carmike 8 Cinemas on Bell Road at 1:15 p.m. in Antioch, authorities said.
Don Aaron, a public information officer, said the gunman shot at a police office, prompting him to return fire. A SWAT team moved in and exchanged fire. Ultimately, he said, the suspect exited out the back door of the theater where he was confronted by more police officers who shot and killed him.
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Officers from the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department responded to reports of a man with a gun and a hatchet inside a showing of "Mad Max" at the Carmike 8 Cinemas on Bell Road at 1:15 p.m. in Antioch, authorities said.
Don Aaron, a public information officer, said the gunman shot at a police office, prompting him to return fire. A SWAT team moved in and exchanged fire. Ultimately, he said, the suspect exited out the back door of the theater where he was confronted by more police officers who shot and killed him.
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Of course, the guy went to a 'Gun Free Zone"... And of course since he was willing to shoot at police, I don't think he gave a rats *** about any gun laws. At least this had the good guys show up fast and take him out. How insane do you have to be to do these things? And why was this guy on the street?
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Col. Jeff Cooper
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Col. Jeff Cooper
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Oh dear, how sad. Mad Max, did he know that was showing or it just happened to be on. At least there's no worry about having to bother with a trial.
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Sounds like suicide by cop
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(08-05-2015, 04:28 PM)Rodney Wrote: Sounds like suicide by cop
I agree. According to FNC, the guy only shot at police and the one injury to someone inside the theater was a superficial cut one guy got on his shoulder from an axe the shooter had.
(08-05-2015, 04:28 PM)Rodney Wrote: Sounds like suicide by cop
I agree. According to FNC, the guy only shot at police and the one injury to someone inside the theater was a superficial cut one guy got on his shoulder from an axe the shooter had.
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(08-05-2015, 04:33 PM)rwhite135 Wrote: (08-05-2015, 04:28 PM)Rodney Wrote: Sounds like suicide by cop
I agree. According to FNC, the guy only shot at police and the one injury to someone inside the theater was a superficial cut one guy got on his shoulder from an axe the shooter had.
Sounds like he had an airsoft gun and backpacks filled with fake bombs. He only used pepper spray inside the theater. Not as bad as it originally sounded, but this dude was messed up. He needed to be dealt with.
I'm just glad the only life lost was his. Oddly enough, I read an article this morning about how 1 in 3 movie goers would like to have armed security and metal detectors at movie theaters, but aren't willing to pay more for tickets to cover the cost involved.
Hey, let us carry there and it won't cost you anything... 
(08-05-2015, 04:33 PM)rwhite135 Wrote: (08-05-2015, 04:28 PM)Rodney Wrote: Sounds like suicide by cop
I agree. According to FNC, the guy only shot at police and the one injury to someone inside the theater was a superficial cut one guy got on his shoulder from an axe the shooter had.
Sounds like he had an airsoft gun and backpacks filled with fake bombs. He only used pepper spray inside the theater. Not as bad as it originally sounded, but this dude was messed up. He needed to be dealt with.
I'm just glad the only life lost was his. Oddly enough, I read an article this morning about how 1 in 3 movie goers would like to have armed security and metal detectors at movie theaters, but aren't willing to pay more for tickets to cover the cost involved.
Hey, let us carry there and it won't cost you anything...
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(08-05-2015, 10:34 PM)Karl B Wrote: Hey, let us carry there and it won't cost you anything...
Armed guards let the bad guy know where the gun is. CC makes him have to guess.
(08-05-2015, 10:34 PM)Karl B Wrote: Hey, let us carry there and it won't cost you anything...
Armed guards let the bad guy know where the gun is. CC makes him have to guess.
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I thought about this scenario. You have a dark movie theater; some guy comes in shooting or causing mayhem.
Here's the hypothetical: let's say CCW is allowed and you have say three CCWs that "respond" to this crazy person. All three pull their weapons, but not knowing who each other is and with the confusion not even sure at that point who the real bad guy is, may mistake an innocent CCW and shoot him instead. Or police arrive and don't know who the crazy guy is and mistake CCWs instead. That's the "scary part" on top of the scary part! Not saying we shouldn't have the right to CCW in theaters, but that is thought provoking. How would we respond?
Perhaps, take cover at first, observe if possible, then should you have any wits about you still at that point, take the perp out. Easy to say from my armchair. Interesting to think about.
Glad the perp won't waste tax payer money in this case.
Here's the hypothetical: let's say CCW is allowed and you have say three CCWs that "respond" to this crazy person. All three pull their weapons, but not knowing who each other is and with the confusion not even sure at that point who the real bad guy is, may mistake an innocent CCW and shoot him instead. Or police arrive and don't know who the crazy guy is and mistake CCWs instead. That's the "scary part" on top of the scary part! Not saying we shouldn't have the right to CCW in theaters, but that is thought provoking. How would we respond?
Perhaps, take cover at first, observe if possible, then should you have any wits about you still at that point, take the perp out. Easy to say from my armchair. Interesting to think about.
Glad the perp won't waste tax payer money in this case.
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As long as Theaters (schools, churches, etc) are 'Sitting Duck Zones', these will be terrorists/insane primary venues of choice. They are trying for maximum damage and that means going somewhere where there are victims only. Police open carry, and wear uniforms to deter crime, and so civilians can tell good guys from bad guys.
In 2003 I got in trouble coming back from Las Vegas in the airport cause of my big mouth. I went by two national guardsmen and commented that I would feel much safer if the had magazines in the M-16's. And that by carrying an empty rifle they were just carrying signs that said 'Shoot me First'. That was enough to detain me till a Captain and a cop showed up. And I suggested that the National Guard be armed, the Captain shrugged, and said he agreed, but they had orders. And then they let me go on my way.
End Gun Free Zones. They are the most idiotic thing the left has come up with to date.
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Col. Jeff Cooper
In 2003 I got in trouble coming back from Las Vegas in the airport cause of my big mouth. I went by two national guardsmen and commented that I would feel much safer if the had magazines in the M-16's. And that by carrying an empty rifle they were just carrying signs that said 'Shoot me First'. That was enough to detain me till a Captain and a cop showed up. And I suggested that the National Guard be armed, the Captain shrugged, and said he agreed, but they had orders. And then they let me go on my way.
End Gun Free Zones. They are the most idiotic thing the left has come up with to date.
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Col. Jeff Cooper
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Agree, gun free zones make absolutely no sense whatsoever. Just ask the simple question "Does putting a sign up prevent gun violence?". Gun free zone to a criminal means no ones gonna bother me for a while. Growing up in the UK, I remember all the signs going up in Manchester proclaiming it to be a nuclear free zone. I know I felt safer knowing the Soviets immediately reprogrammed all their missiles to avoid Manchester. Why is it that most of us learn very young that the bullies and bad guys don't follow the rules, yet this simple concept seems to elude so many people in government?
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(08-06-2015, 09:11 AM)ssphoto Wrote: I thought about this scenario. You have a dark movie theater; some guy comes in shooting or causing mayhem.
Here's the hypothetical: let's say CCW is allowed and you have say three CCWs that "respond" to this crazy person. All three pull their weapons, but not knowing who each other is and with the confusion not even sure at that point who the real bad guy is, may mistake an innocent CCW and shoot him instead. Or police arrive and don't know who the crazy guy is and mistake CCWs instead. That's the "scary part" on top of the scary part! Not saying we shouldn't have the right to CCW in theaters, but that is thought provoking. How would we respond?
Perhaps, take cover at first, observe if possible, then should you have any wits about you still at that point, take the perp out. Easy to say from my armchair. Interesting to think about.
Glad the perp won't waste tax payer money in this case.
This is the kind of scenario argument that the opposition went on and on about when debating the Illinois CCW. They usually threw in the term "wild west" here and there.
After 1.5 years and over 100,000 licenses the response is : not gonna' happen.
When you add in the fact for 40 years we have steadily increased the number of license holders to 12 million nationwide and something like this has NEVER happened, I would say I am not too concerned.
My reasons for believing why it has never happened. Because as CC trainees (despite what a lot of us blather on about in social media) we really do understand we are not law enforcement and we are not trained in tactical pursuit. We carry to protect our families and have no interest in puling that gun if not necessary.
And as far as not knowing who each other is: a mass murderer trying to kill people will have quite a different body language from someone trying to protect his or her family. It actually might be the most obvious thing in the world.
(08-06-2015, 09:11 AM)ssphoto Wrote: I thought about this scenario. You have a dark movie theater; some guy comes in shooting or causing mayhem.
Here's the hypothetical: let's say CCW is allowed and you have say three CCWs that "respond" to this crazy person. All three pull their weapons, but not knowing who each other is and with the confusion not even sure at that point who the real bad guy is, may mistake an innocent CCW and shoot him instead. Or police arrive and don't know who the crazy guy is and mistake CCWs instead. That's the "scary part" on top of the scary part! Not saying we shouldn't have the right to CCW in theaters, but that is thought provoking. How would we respond?
Perhaps, take cover at first, observe if possible, then should you have any wits about you still at that point, take the perp out. Easy to say from my armchair. Interesting to think about.
Glad the perp won't waste tax payer money in this case.
This is the kind of scenario argument that the opposition went on and on about when debating the Illinois CCW. They usually threw in the term "wild west" here and there.
After 1.5 years and over 100,000 licenses the response is : not gonna' happen.
When you add in the fact for 40 years we have steadily increased the number of license holders to 12 million nationwide and something like this has NEVER happened, I would say I am not too concerned.
My reasons for believing why it has never happened. Because as CC trainees (despite what a lot of us blather on about in social media) we really do understand we are not law enforcement and we are not trained in tactical pursuit. We carry to protect our families and have no interest in puling that gun if not necessary.
And as far as not knowing who each other is: a mass murderer trying to kill people will have quite a different body language from someone trying to protect his or her family. It actually might be the most obvious thing in the world.
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Dutz, as with any situation, you have to use judgement and training. Of course if you see muzzle flashes and hear gunshots it is best to take cover first, and assess the situation. You should always be aware of you surroundings. You should always know what you are shooting at, and you should always know what is behind your target. But I prefer the wild west, that everyone dead. I am sure there are cases where innocent people are hurt by good guys in fire fights. It's tragic, but think of the carnage without resistance.
As my tag line says: "An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." It is true in a bank heist, school shooting or movie theater. The only difference evil will play itself out till the good guys arrive, in Sitting Duck Zones. Liberals expect us to accept the carnage. I say let their schools be GFZ, I prefer the teachers packing heat...
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Col. Jeff Cooper
As my tag line says: "An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." It is true in a bank heist, school shooting or movie theater. The only difference evil will play itself out till the good guys arrive, in Sitting Duck Zones. Liberals expect us to accept the carnage. I say let their schools be GFZ, I prefer the teachers packing heat...
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Col. Jeff Cooper
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From an article that came out shortly after the Sandy Hook murders, "Detectives believe Lanza targeted an elementary school because he considered it a 'point of least resistance,' and he could rack up the greatest number of kills."
Why did Lanza think that? BECAUSE THE SCHOOL WAS A GUN-FREE ZONE! Get rid of gun-free zones and we'll see a drop in these incidents. The ironic part of all this is that the police state that it was due to a gun-free zone and the CT government pushes through more gun control laws to fix what they broke with gun control laws.
Why did Lanza think that? BECAUSE THE SCHOOL WAS A GUN-FREE ZONE! Get rid of gun-free zones and we'll see a drop in these incidents. The ironic part of all this is that the police state that it was due to a gun-free zone and the CT government pushes through more gun control laws to fix what they broke with gun control laws.
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