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Quote:If a person has the option of going to Harvard or becoming a plumber, he said he would suggest thinking about the plumbing career.
“The Harvard graduate on average will never catch up to a plumber,” Bloomberg said. “Partially because the first four years — instead of spending $60,000, you make $60,000.”
I agree with him on this. I know there are quite a few people on here with computer related jobs and I'm sure you would agree that while you can make decent money the cost of schooling is becoming more and more ridiculous and even after graduating with a Bachelors or Masters you still could have your job outsourced.
One other thing about plumbing, you can't outsource it to India.
Quote:If a person has the option of going to Harvard or becoming a plumber, he said he would suggest thinking about the plumbing career.
“The Harvard graduate on average will never catch up to a plumber,” Bloomberg said. “Partially because the first four years — instead of spending $60,000, you make $60,000.”
I agree with him on this. I know there are quite a few people on here with computer related jobs and I'm sure you would agree that while you can make decent money the cost of schooling is becoming more and more ridiculous and even after graduating with a Bachelors or Masters you still could have your job outsourced.
One other thing about plumbing, you can't outsource it to India.
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(02-07-2015, 09:50 PM)AcilletaM Wrote: Quote:If a person has the option of going to Harvard or becoming a plumber, he said he would suggest thinking about the plumbing career.
“The Harvard graduate on average will never catch up to a plumber,” Bloomberg said. “Partially because the first four years — instead of spending $60,000, you make $60,000.”
I agree with him on this. I know there are quite a few people on here with computer related jobs and I'm sure you would agree that while you can make decent money the cost of schooling is becoming more and more ridiculous and even after graduating with a Bachelors or Masters you still could have your job outsourced.
One other thing about plumbing, you can't outsource it to India.
The numbers disagree. The last time I looked a Harvard MBA starts on average at $150,000. And over a lifetime total salaried earned is always higher proportionately with more college.
On a personal note, I am programmer, and during the last 6 years my employee downsized and dropped a 10% salary cut across the board. During each layoff I remained when more experienced and more seniority people did not. The primary reason was my master's degree. Not that it made me better, it made me more marketable to clients.
(02-07-2015, 09:50 PM)AcilletaM Wrote: Quote:If a person has the option of going to Harvard or becoming a plumber, he said he would suggest thinking about the plumbing career.
“The Harvard graduate on average will never catch up to a plumber,” Bloomberg said. “Partially because the first four years — instead of spending $60,000, you make $60,000.”
I agree with him on this. I know there are quite a few people on here with computer related jobs and I'm sure you would agree that while you can make decent money the cost of schooling is becoming more and more ridiculous and even after graduating with a Bachelors or Masters you still could have your job outsourced.
One other thing about plumbing, you can't outsource it to India.
The numbers disagree. The last time I looked a Harvard MBA starts on average at $150,000. And over a lifetime total salaried earned is always higher proportionately with more college.
On a personal note, I am programmer, and during the last 6 years my employee downsized and dropped a 10% salary cut across the board. During each layoff I remained when more experienced and more seniority people did not. The primary reason was my master's degree. Not that it made me better, it made me more marketable to clients.
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(02-08-2015, 11:23 AM)Dutz Wrote: (02-07-2015, 09:50 PM)AcilletaM Wrote: Quote:If a person has the option of going to Harvard or becoming a plumber, he said he would suggest thinking about the plumbing career.
“The Harvard graduate on average will never catch up to a plumber,” Bloomberg said. “Partially because the first four years — instead of spending $60,000, you make $60,000.”
I agree with him on this. I know there are quite a few people on here with computer related jobs and I'm sure you would agree that while you can make decent money the cost of schooling is becoming more and more ridiculous and even after graduating with a Bachelors or Masters you still could have your job outsourced.
One other thing about plumbing, you can't outsource it to India.
The numbers disagree. The last time I looked a Harvard MBA starts on average at $150,000. And over a lifetime total salaried earned is always higher proportionately with more college.
On a personal note, I am programmer, and during the last 6 years my employee downsized and dropped a 10% salary cut across the board. During each layoff I remained when more experienced and more seniority people did not. The primary reason was my master's degree. Not that it made me better, it made me more marketable to clients.
Bloomberg Business puts it little lower but you are correct as far as MBAs. Last I checked though, Harvard offered a lot more than just MBAs.
Dutz, I don't know you or your skills and this is not a comment about them in any way, but I would argue the primary reason you are still there is you provided more value than the others. Your marketability was part of the equation but so were salary costs to the company. I could be wrong but when you mention people with more seniority/experience were let go it makes me think the salary costs were a major factor and they provided less value to the company than you.
(02-08-2015, 11:23 AM)Dutz Wrote: (02-07-2015, 09:50 PM)AcilletaM Wrote: Quote:If a person has the option of going to Harvard or becoming a plumber, he said he would suggest thinking about the plumbing career.
“The Harvard graduate on average will never catch up to a plumber,” Bloomberg said. “Partially because the first four years — instead of spending $60,000, you make $60,000.”
I agree with him on this. I know there are quite a few people on here with computer related jobs and I'm sure you would agree that while you can make decent money the cost of schooling is becoming more and more ridiculous and even after graduating with a Bachelors or Masters you still could have your job outsourced.
One other thing about plumbing, you can't outsource it to India.
The numbers disagree. The last time I looked a Harvard MBA starts on average at $150,000. And over a lifetime total salaried earned is always higher proportionately with more college.
On a personal note, I am programmer, and during the last 6 years my employee downsized and dropped a 10% salary cut across the board. During each layoff I remained when more experienced and more seniority people did not. The primary reason was my master's degree. Not that it made me better, it made me more marketable to clients.
Bloomberg Business puts it little lower but you are correct as far as MBAs. Last I checked though, Harvard offered a lot more than just MBAs.
Dutz, I don't know you or your skills and this is not a comment about them in any way, but I would argue the primary reason you are still there is you provided more value than the others. Your marketability was part of the equation but so were salary costs to the company. I could be wrong but when you mention people with more seniority/experience were let go it makes me think the salary costs were a major factor and they provided less value to the company than you.
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Just another Billionaire looking to take his way of life and shove it down our throats.
What I find interesting is that I have an uncle who alone is worth over 1b and the only thing he wants is to build his business, and live a good life. Never once has he forced his opinion on anyone regarding politics. He has turned down more invitations to events for politicians and presidents. He says their is to much BS tied to that crap. AMEN!
What I find interesting is that I have an uncle who alone is worth over 1b and the only thing he wants is to build his business, and live a good life. Never once has he forced his opinion on anyone regarding politics. He has turned down more invitations to events for politicians and presidents. He says their is to much BS tied to that crap. AMEN!
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Interesting note:
I had to sit in a conference last week from Thursday to Sunday. One of the classes was on Mary Jane in the workplace. Other than the legal stuff on how to keep my staff from coming to work stoned, the attorneys had an interesting point. Oregon is keeping their tax on MJ low compared to CO and WA so that "We can put the black market out of business". He stated that this will be the big failure of CO and WA. They stated that there is a lot of pot being sold in those states bu the tax is so high (pardon the pun) that the dispensaries are not selling the majority of the MJ but the black market (not a racist term) is.
I had to sit in a conference last week from Thursday to Sunday. One of the classes was on Mary Jane in the workplace. Other than the legal stuff on how to keep my staff from coming to work stoned, the attorneys had an interesting point. Oregon is keeping their tax on MJ low compared to CO and WA so that "We can put the black market out of business". He stated that this will be the big failure of CO and WA. They stated that there is a lot of pot being sold in those states bu the tax is so high (pardon the pun) that the dispensaries are not selling the majority of the MJ but the black market (not a racist term) is.
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I have a perfect solution to the drug problem. Have all the conservative groups start saying using drugs is part of our liberty and we all want them.
Obama will then issue an executive order to have all government agencies start buying up all the drugs and the supply will dry up.
Obama will then issue an executive order to have all government agencies start buying up all the drugs and the supply will dry up.
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Making Drugs, liquor (remember prohibition?), Big Gulps, Fried Food, smoking, etc illegal are all GOVERNMENT over stepping their bounds. If people want to use these things why does government assume they should not? Liberty and Freedom are at stake here. Let people live their lives.
It is like immunizations... Who should decide, parents or government. According to the CDC last year over 230 kids died from various 'government' mandated immunizations. Did the government compensate the parents for their loss? No. Weren't they responsible?
Get the government out of Food, Auto, Insurance, Banking, Mortgage, Education, and assorted other business'.
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Col. Jeff Cooper
It is like immunizations... Who should decide, parents or government. According to the CDC last year over 230 kids died from various 'government' mandated immunizations. Did the government compensate the parents for their loss? No. Weren't they responsible?
Get the government out of Food, Auto, Insurance, Banking, Mortgage, Education, and assorted other business'.
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Col. Jeff Cooper
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And getting the Gov out of buisness would be great if big biz would stop pandering to the Gov for protection.
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(02-09-2015, 10:50 PM)bradberry Wrote: And getting the Gov out of buisness would be great if big biz would stop pandering to the Gov for protection. 
(02-09-2015, 10:50 PM)bradberry Wrote: And getting the Gov out of buisness would be great if big biz would stop pandering to the Gov for protection.
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