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02-15-2015, 10:23 PM
(02-15-2015, 10:15 PM)fromtheplaines Wrote:(02-10-2015, 09:10 AM)Dutz Wrote: That's too bad. I thought our discourse was rather civil for guys who carry guns.
I think the exchange of different ideas is helpful and more interesting than everyone agreeing and preaching to the choir all the time.
I assume, forgive me if I am wrong, you consider it a waste of time because you did not persuade. If so, just know real and effective persuasion rarely occurs until the persuaded has time to absorb and consider. If it does not take time and consideration the persuaded is generally just another sheep.
I don't mind debates I am just getting sick of the whole. You need to agree with me or your are not pro II. The rules in question are two separate things. The reason why I thought it was a waste of time. Is at best the points were pretty much disregarded. I know you don't like the rules. I don't like all of them either. I more or less tried to just explain the reason behind the rules to start this off. Some if the angst directed at the club makes it sound like a member ran over their dog and than backed over it fir good messure.
You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to mine. That said, Bristol is the WORST range within 100 miles of where I live. You admit it is unsafe, the rules are idiotic, worse still the RSO's are Nazi's. Go there if you like, but I won't, and I will encourage every shooter I know to stay away.
No one said you were anti-Second, just that Bristol clearly is, that much just about everyone agrees on.
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Col. Jeff Cooper
(02-15-2015, 10:15 PM)fromtheplaines Wrote:
I don't mind debates I am just getting sick of the whole. You need to agree with me or your are not pro II. The rules in question are two separate things. The reason why I thought it was a waste of time. Is at best the points were pretty much disregarded. I know you don't like the rules. I don't like all of them either. I more or less tried to just explain the reason behind the rules to start this off. Some if the angst directed at the club makes it sound like a member ran over their dog and than backed over it fir good messure.
You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to mine. That said, Bristol is the WORST range within 100 miles of where I live. You admit it is unsafe, the rules are idiotic, worse still the RSO's are Nazi's. Go there if you like, but I won't, and I will encourage every shooter I know to stay away.
No one said you were anti-Second, just that Bristol clearly is, that much just about everyone agrees on.
(02-10-2015, 09:10 AM)Dutz Wrote: That's too bad. I thought our discourse was rather civil for guys who carry guns.
I think the exchange of different ideas is helpful and more interesting than everyone agreeing and preaching to the choir all the time.
I assume, forgive me if I am wrong, you consider it a waste of time because you did not persuade. If so, just know real and effective persuasion rarely occurs until the persuaded has time to absorb and consider. If it does not take time and consideration the persuaded is generally just another sheep.
I don't mind debates I am just getting sick of the whole. You need to agree with me or your are not pro II. The rules in question are two separate things. The reason why I thought it was a waste of time. Is at best the points were pretty much disregarded. I know you don't like the rules. I don't like all of them either. I more or less tried to just explain the reason behind the rules to start this off. Some if the angst directed at the club makes it sound like a member ran over their dog and than backed over it fir good messure.
You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to mine. That said, Bristol is the WORST range within 100 miles of where I live. You admit it is unsafe, the rules are idiotic, worse still the RSO's are Nazi's. Go there if you like, but I won't, and I will encourage every shooter I know to stay away.
No one said you were anti-Second, just that Bristol clearly is, that much just about everyone agrees on.
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Col. Jeff Cooper