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01-14-2015, 05:39 PM
(01-14-2015, 02:19 PM)Freedoms1791 Wrote:(01-14-2015, 10:18 AM)bradberry Wrote:(11-19-2014, 06:09 PM)BelieveIn308 Wrote: The reason behind the Second Amendment had zero to do with self defense against criminals or hunting. It was placed in the Constitution so that the people could have a fighting chance against a tyrannical government. Anyone that doubts this needs to read Madison, Mason and Jefferson. There was no doubt in the founding fathers minds, that this was the ultimate guaranty of our liberty and freedom. Let us not forget that. As Danton said, "Man has the rights he can defend"!
Very well put and of course something that is very important is that I am sure PieceLessPeace loves his first amendment, but it is meaningless without the 2nd amendment to back it up. How else does a nation stay free. There are too many attacks on ALL CIVIL LIBERTIES from within. As politicians push for power they then erode all of our civil liberties, and as they do that the 2nd is in place to stop them. The words above, "Tyranny and Oppression" need to be clearly stated and are very important as we are now closer than ever to an Oligarchy. Just my .two cents.....WHY because I LOVE MY FREEDOM.......
it all comes down to being open to share both sides of the debate. Peace was willing to use his first amendment right as a TOOL, but not willing to learn what the TOOLS of the second amendment are about. Try using the example that just happened in France. If all of those people had a firearm to protect themselves the outcome would have been completely different.
(01-14-2015, 02:19 PM)Freedoms1791 Wrote:(01-14-2015, 10:18 AM)bradberry Wrote:(11-19-2014, 06:09 PM)BelieveIn308 Wrote: The reason behind the Second Amendment had zero to do with self defense against criminals or hunting. It was placed in the Constitution so that the people could have a fighting chance against a tyrannical government. Anyone that doubts this needs to read Madison, Mason and Jefferson. There was no doubt in the founding fathers minds, that this was the ultimate guaranty of our liberty and freedom. Let us not forget that. As Danton said, "Man has the rights he can defend"!
Very well put and of course something that is very important is that I am sure PieceLessPeace loves his first amendment, but it is meaningless without the 2nd amendment to back it up. How else does a nation stay free. There are too many attacks on ALL CIVIL LIBERTIES from within. As politicians push for power they then erode all of our civil liberties, and as they do that the 2nd is in place to stop them. The words above, "Tyranny and Oppression" need to be clearly stated and are very important as we are now closer than ever to an Oligarchy. Just my .two cents.....WHY because I LOVE MY FREEDOM.......
it all comes down to being open to share both sides of the debate. Peace was willing to use his first amendment right as a TOOL, but not willing to learn what the TOOLS of the second amendment are about. Try using the example that just happened in France. If all of those people had a firearm to protect themselves the outcome would have been completely different.