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10-25-2016, 07:27 AM
(10-24-2016, 08:01 AM)British Gunner Wrote: as a Clinton consiglieri said of executive orders during Bill's reign "stroke of the pen, law of the land, pretty cool eh?"
Actually, that is not true. They say "law of the land" to fool the ignorant.
Executive orders are nothing more than a way for the CEO (chief executive) to manage corporate operations.
The work the same way as in a business, i.e. if a CEO declares employees can only take 30 minutes for lunch that does not apply to employees when they are on their days off and does not apply to customers or vendors.
When the President writes an executive order they only apply to federal government employees and only during execution of the employment duties.
They are NOT the law of the land, they do NOT apply to those employees outside of work, and most certainly do NOT apply to you or me.
They can affect you indirectly. Government agencies who have legal power to set regulations can receive directives regarding those regulations from the President. However, those regulations by themselves are not law either. First, they apply federally, so local government and local agencies are not obligate to enforce them, and second, as not law, the justice department has no jurisdiction to arrest, because there is no law to be broken. All the feds can do is sue you for compliance or fine you.
HOWEVER, when those regulations are unconstitutional, suing you (or fining you and risking you suing them), brings that regulation before the court and risks the constitutional declaration. When the regulation is an overreach you can just ignore it, and they likely will leave you alone. That's a bit of a risk with liberal courts.
Regardless, the executive order is nothing if we don't let it be, and don't accept our education from the media.
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(10-24-2016, 08:01 AM)British Gunner Wrote: as a Clinton consiglieri said of executive orders during Bill's reign "stroke of the pen, law of the land, pretty cool eh?"
Actually, that is not true. They say "law of the land" to fool the ignorant.
Executive orders are nothing more than a way for the CEO (chief executive) to manage corporate operations.
The work the same way as in a business, i.e. if a CEO declares employees can only take 30 minutes for lunch that does not apply to employees when they are on their days off and does not apply to customers or vendors.
When the President writes an executive order they only apply to federal government employees and only during execution of the employment duties.
They are NOT the law of the land, they do NOT apply to those employees outside of work, and most certainly do NOT apply to you or me.
They can affect you indirectly. Government agencies who have legal power to set regulations can receive directives regarding those regulations from the President. However, those regulations by themselves are not law either. First, they apply federally, so local government and local agencies are not obligate to enforce them, and second, as not law, the justice department has no jurisdiction to arrest, because there is no law to be broken. All the feds can do is sue you for compliance or fine you.
HOWEVER, when those regulations are unconstitutional, suing you (or fining you and risking you suing them), brings that regulation before the court and risks the constitutional declaration. When the regulation is an overreach you can just ignore it, and they likely will leave you alone. That's a bit of a risk with liberal courts.
Regardless, the executive order is nothing if we don't let it be, and don't accept our education from the media.
Actually, that is not true. They say "law of the land" to fool the ignorant.
Executive orders are nothing more than a way for the CEO (chief executive) to manage corporate operations.
The work the same way as in a business, i.e. if a CEO declares employees can only take 30 minutes for lunch that does not apply to employees when they are on their days off and does not apply to customers or vendors.
When the President writes an executive order they only apply to federal government employees and only during execution of the employment duties.
They are NOT the law of the land, they do NOT apply to those employees outside of work, and most certainly do NOT apply to you or me.
They can affect you indirectly. Government agencies who have legal power to set regulations can receive directives regarding those regulations from the President. However, those regulations by themselves are not law either. First, they apply federally, so local government and local agencies are not obligate to enforce them, and second, as not law, the justice department has no jurisdiction to arrest, because there is no law to be broken. All the feds can do is sue you for compliance or fine you.
HOWEVER, when those regulations are unconstitutional, suing you (or fining you and risking you suing them), brings that regulation before the court and risks the constitutional declaration. When the regulation is an overreach you can just ignore it, and they likely will leave you alone. That's a bit of a risk with liberal courts.
Regardless, the executive order is nothing if we don't let it be, and don't accept our education from the media.