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09-23-2014, 08:11 PM
(09-23-2014, 09:50 AM)PieceLessPeace Wrote:(09-16-2014, 08:25 PM)BelieveIn308 Wrote:(09-16-2014, 08:02 PM)PieceLessPeace Wrote: Thanks for letting me join this Forum.
I don't not believe guns are needed for peace, but I'm hopping to learn from y'all and we can find a happy medium.
I'm really curious why 'gun lovers' are so bent of these tools of destruction.
We believe guns would not be needed, if only others didn't believe in using force to make someone else pay their way (Socialism/Communism).
We believe force is needed to preserve RIGHTS granted under the Constitution, as the government seems to believe they can take away whatever rights they want to enforce their will and control others.
We believe the criminal element will always have weapons, unless you can outlaw knowledge to produce such weapons.
We have learned from history that a disarmed people are slaves. As Danton said "Man has the Rights he can Defend".
One only look at the current dictator Obama. A man that clearly doesn't believe in law. A man that doesn't believe in rights. A man that believes he can ignore laws he doesn't agree with.
There is a great quote on this website: This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police will be more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future! Adolph Hitler, 1935 How did that work out for you? How about those under Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, or a host of other gun control socialist/communist murderers?
That's not always the case. Other countries have banned guns, and the government has not taken over people like serfs. England, Canada and Australia have all banned guns, and they are still free countries. I've been to some, and they are as a free people as Americans.
Other countries require all citizens to own guns. Switzerland for example. Violence is CULTURAL. Canada doesn't have an underclass bent on violence. England, however has plenty of violent crime. Bobbies have been armed for 4 decades now.
A gun is not a tool of destruction. All weapons are tools of Peace. They provide people with the ability to DEFEND themselves against others trying to take their lives or trying to take the fruits of their labor.
As to governments killing the unarmed, history is rife with examples of that. Remember Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot were the governments. A gun is a tool of peace. Peace from others that wish to do harm.
Australia's crime rate has soared. Their gun violence rate has not declined. Only the victims ability to resist has changed. They are now truly controlled by their government. If their government turns to evil (as most do) then they will have a much larger death toll, than if they put Hitler in charge.
(09-23-2014, 09:50 AM)PieceLessPeace Wrote:
That's not always the case. Other countries have banned guns, and the government has not taken over people like serfs. England, Canada and Australia have all banned guns, and they are still free countries. I've been to some, and they are as a free people as Americans.
Other countries require all citizens to own guns. Switzerland for example. Violence is CULTURAL. Canada doesn't have an underclass bent on violence. England, however has plenty of violent crime. Bobbies have been armed for 4 decades now.
A gun is not a tool of destruction. All weapons are tools of Peace. They provide people with the ability to DEFEND themselves against others trying to take their lives or trying to take the fruits of their labor.
As to governments killing the unarmed, history is rife with examples of that. Remember Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot were the governments. A gun is a tool of peace. Peace from others that wish to do harm.
Australia's crime rate has soared. Their gun violence rate has not declined. Only the victims ability to resist has changed. They are now truly controlled by their government. If their government turns to evil (as most do) then they will have a much larger death toll, than if they put Hitler in charge.
(09-16-2014, 08:25 PM)BelieveIn308 Wrote:(09-16-2014, 08:02 PM)PieceLessPeace Wrote: Thanks for letting me join this Forum.
I don't not believe guns are needed for peace, but I'm hopping to learn from y'all and we can find a happy medium.
I'm really curious why 'gun lovers' are so bent of these tools of destruction.
We believe guns would not be needed, if only others didn't believe in using force to make someone else pay their way (Socialism/Communism).
We believe force is needed to preserve RIGHTS granted under the Constitution, as the government seems to believe they can take away whatever rights they want to enforce their will and control others.
We believe the criminal element will always have weapons, unless you can outlaw knowledge to produce such weapons.
We have learned from history that a disarmed people are slaves. As Danton said "Man has the Rights he can Defend".
One only look at the current dictator Obama. A man that clearly doesn't believe in law. A man that doesn't believe in rights. A man that believes he can ignore laws he doesn't agree with.
There is a great quote on this website: This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police will be more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future! Adolph Hitler, 1935 How did that work out for you? How about those under Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, or a host of other gun control socialist/communist murderers?
That's not always the case. Other countries have banned guns, and the government has not taken over people like serfs. England, Canada and Australia have all banned guns, and they are still free countries. I've been to some, and they are as a free people as Americans.
Other countries require all citizens to own guns. Switzerland for example. Violence is CULTURAL. Canada doesn't have an underclass bent on violence. England, however has plenty of violent crime. Bobbies have been armed for 4 decades now.
A gun is not a tool of destruction. All weapons are tools of Peace. They provide people with the ability to DEFEND themselves against others trying to take their lives or trying to take the fruits of their labor.
As to governments killing the unarmed, history is rife with examples of that. Remember Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot were the governments. A gun is a tool of peace. Peace from others that wish to do harm.
Australia's crime rate has soared. Their gun violence rate has not declined. Only the victims ability to resist has changed. They are now truly controlled by their government. If their government turns to evil (as most do) then they will have a much larger death toll, than if they put Hitler in charge.