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03-17-2016, 05:07 PM
(03-17-2016, 03:56 AM)BelieveIn308 Wrote: I find Libertarians to be strict Constitutionalists.
I don't at all. They claim that they are but a lot of them believe in things that are not Constitutional at all. I personally know a few from the WV version of the party that take things that Washington wrote in his farewell or Jefferson wrote in a letter and claim that they're in the Constitution. At least Washington presided over the convention but Jefferson had no input and wasn't even in the country at the time, he was in France. I also don't agree with the ones that preach about gay rights and claim that the Constitution protects gay marriage. That couldn't be farther from the truth. Gay marriage was illegal at the time the constitution was written, as was engaging in that behavior, and remained so afterwards. They say that the Constitution should give the same protections to gay marriage as it does to hetero marriage. They forget that marriage isn't mentioned in the constitution and so is the purview of the states. One state didn't have to recognize a marriage from any other state until this gay marriage nonsense. I have also seen libertarians who have sided with the "separation of church and state" crowd. There is nothing in the constitution that states that religion has to be kept out of the government. The founders fell back on religious teaching when drafting the Constitution. The idea of legislative representation based on population comes from Exodus 18:21, which states that government officials should be chosen “...over thousands, hundreds, fifties and tens," as an example. In fact, the idea was to keep government out of religion but not the other way around. The libertarian idea that narcotics use should be legalized is also not constitutionally based. These are just some of the examples of why I don't side with libertarians.
(03-17-2016, 03:56 AM)BelieveIn308 Wrote: I find Libertarians to be strict Constitutionalists.
I don't at all. They claim that they are but a lot of them believe in things that are not Constitutional at all. I personally know a few from the WV version of the party that take things that Washington wrote in his farewell or Jefferson wrote in a letter and claim that they're in the Constitution. At least Washington presided over the convention but Jefferson had no input and wasn't even in the country at the time, he was in France. I also don't agree with the ones that preach about gay rights and claim that the Constitution protects gay marriage. That couldn't be farther from the truth. Gay marriage was illegal at the time the constitution was written, as was engaging in that behavior, and remained so afterwards. They say that the Constitution should give the same protections to gay marriage as it does to hetero marriage. They forget that marriage isn't mentioned in the constitution and so is the purview of the states. One state didn't have to recognize a marriage from any other state until this gay marriage nonsense. I have also seen libertarians who have sided with the "separation of church and state" crowd. There is nothing in the constitution that states that religion has to be kept out of the government. The founders fell back on religious teaching when drafting the Constitution. The idea of legislative representation based on population comes from Exodus 18:21, which states that government officials should be chosen “...over thousands, hundreds, fifties and tens," as an example. In fact, the idea was to keep government out of religion but not the other way around. The libertarian idea that narcotics use should be legalized is also not constitutionally based. These are just some of the examples of why I don't side with libertarians.
I don't at all. They claim that they are but a lot of them believe in things that are not Constitutional at all. I personally know a few from the WV version of the party that take things that Washington wrote in his farewell or Jefferson wrote in a letter and claim that they're in the Constitution. At least Washington presided over the convention but Jefferson had no input and wasn't even in the country at the time, he was in France. I also don't agree with the ones that preach about gay rights and claim that the Constitution protects gay marriage. That couldn't be farther from the truth. Gay marriage was illegal at the time the constitution was written, as was engaging in that behavior, and remained so afterwards. They say that the Constitution should give the same protections to gay marriage as it does to hetero marriage. They forget that marriage isn't mentioned in the constitution and so is the purview of the states. One state didn't have to recognize a marriage from any other state until this gay marriage nonsense. I have also seen libertarians who have sided with the "separation of church and state" crowd. There is nothing in the constitution that states that religion has to be kept out of the government. The founders fell back on religious teaching when drafting the Constitution. The idea of legislative representation based on population comes from Exodus 18:21, which states that government officials should be chosen “...over thousands, hundreds, fifties and tens," as an example. In fact, the idea was to keep government out of religion but not the other way around. The libertarian idea that narcotics use should be legalized is also not constitutionally based. These are just some of the examples of why I don't side with libertarians.