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12-01-2015, 01:02 PM
(11-27-2015, 11:38 AM)fromtheplaines Wrote: And than they use the power of the govt to enact those changes.
And within this statement lies the problem.
Quote:How do you suppose that?
"Enact change". That is the problem, and the #1 problem we face - we think it is the government's job to enact change.
Thomas Jefferson said, and I paraphrase, that democracy only works for a moral people. This means if you only won't commit murder because you may get caught and punished, then democracy won't work for you. If you won't commit murder because it is wrong, then it will.
The "change" you refer to is change in human behavior and thought. If we are to protect the environment it must be what the people want, if people will only protect the environment because they will be punished otherwise then in the end it will fail.
The only way that won't fail, the only way you can truly enact change from the government is bring in Hitler. Why? Because he made the trains run on time.
Change must arise from the people if the Republic is to survive.
What you are asking for comes with more than a saved environment and more than trains running on time. What you are asking for will cost you your freedom in the end.
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(11-27-2015, 11:38 AM)fromtheplaines Wrote: And than they use the power of the govt to enact those changes.
And within this statement lies the problem.
"Enact change". That is the problem, and the #1 problem we face - we think it is the government's job to enact change.
Thomas Jefferson said, and I paraphrase, that democracy only works for a moral people. This means if you only won't commit murder because you may get caught and punished, then democracy won't work for you. If you won't commit murder because it is wrong, then it will.
The "change" you refer to is change in human behavior and thought. If we are to protect the environment it must be what the people want, if people will only protect the environment because they will be punished otherwise then in the end it will fail.
The only way that won't fail, the only way you can truly enact change from the government is bring in Hitler. Why? Because he made the trains run on time.
Change must arise from the people if the Republic is to survive.
What you are asking for comes with more than a saved environment and more than trains running on time. What you are asking for will cost you your freedom in the end.
And within this statement lies the problem.
Quote:How do you suppose that?
"Enact change". That is the problem, and the #1 problem we face - we think it is the government's job to enact change.
Thomas Jefferson said, and I paraphrase, that democracy only works for a moral people. This means if you only won't commit murder because you may get caught and punished, then democracy won't work for you. If you won't commit murder because it is wrong, then it will.
The "change" you refer to is change in human behavior and thought. If we are to protect the environment it must be what the people want, if people will only protect the environment because they will be punished otherwise then in the end it will fail.
The only way that won't fail, the only way you can truly enact change from the government is bring in Hitler. Why? Because he made the trains run on time.
Change must arise from the people if the Republic is to survive.
What you are asking for comes with more than a saved environment and more than trains running on time. What you are asking for will cost you your freedom in the end.