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With an Antioch Gun Show in February, This Has a Bit of Relavency - StJude - 01-28-2015
What has this nation become? Do you really believe they abandoned the program?
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150128/us--license_plate_surveillance-d906e7a16c.html
RE: With an Antioch Gun Show in February, This Has a Bit of Relavency - BelieveIn308 - 01-28-2015
If they do not have a Warrant or probable cause... this is probably illegal. That said, only the left and socialists can believe that liberty and freedom are served with this level of government monitoring. Isn't this what Orwell was trying to warn us about in his '1984' book?
RE: With an Antioch Gun Show in February, This Has a Bit of Relavency - rwhite135 - 01-28-2015
I'm not sure that they wouldn't find a loophole to do this. Keep in mind that in large portions of the country your car and license plate number are already being recorded at traffic lights without the need for a warrant. They could do this on the road leading to the gun show and say that since you're on a public roadway that you have no expectation of privacy and it would pass constitutional muster, as such cases have already done so in regards to other types of surveillance. The grey area, the one where they'd most assuredly need a warrant, would come if they did it in the parking lot of a privately owned convention area. If it were a publicly owned one, county fairgrounds for example, again it would probably pass the constitutional muster under the current situation in DC. The real question that needs to be asked is why a DEA official was proposing such action when firearms do not fall under their jurisdiction?
RE: With an Antioch Gun Show in February, This Has a Bit of Relavency - Dutz - 01-28-2015
"DEA Administrator Michelle Leonhart said in a statement that the proposal memorialized in an employee's email was only a suggestion"
This is the worst part. This person said that like that makes it o.k., "oh we were just talking about it internally"
Seriously? Why was this person not fired or removed until training can take place?
RE: With an Antioch Gun Show in February, This Has a Bit of Relavency - rwhite135 - 01-28-2015
(01-28-2015, 03:33 PM)Dutz Wrote: "DEA Administrator Michelle Leonhart said in a statement that the proposal memorialized in an employee's email was only a suggestion"
This is the worst part. This person said that like that makes it o.k., "oh we were just talking about it internally"
Seriously? Why was this person not fired or removed until training can take place?
Because Obozo and Holder agree with the employee.
RE: With an Antioch Gun Show in February, This Has a Bit of Relavency - AcilletaM - 01-28-2015
Just shows government inefficiency, DEA was looking to do something the NSA was probably already doing and duplicating the effort