Hey guys. So as I mentioned in my intro, I'm a law student, and this summer I'm doing work with federal inmates assisting with legal issues they have. I can't get too into the identifying details of what I'm working on, but I just started work on a case that had some circumstances that caught my eye.
Basically, my client entered a business, in broad daylight, armed with a handgun and robbed the place. No one in the place was injured, but as my client exited he got in an quick altercation with a good samaritan. By altercation I mean the civilian got shot directly in the face.
The perp is now in prison, but I'm sure that is small consolation for the permanently injured man and his family. Moral of the story: the s**t can hit the fan at any time and in any place. Keep your heads on a swivel guys, and stay safe.
That must be pretty interesting work! Sounds like good Samaritan was ill-equipped for the situation, and probably should not have gotten involved. Too many people get hurt in situations that they should have stayed out of. Based on what you mentioned, the perp (your client) was making a clean getaway and none of the victims were in immediate danger anymore? I have to think that a phone call to police would have been a better option than getting physical. Sometimes you just have to be a good witness.
tough to be a Monday morning quarter back. Sometimes it's ingrained in us to do good.
Cant do much good dead tho :/ like the saying goes dont bring a knife to a gun fight
Yeah, it was a complicated situation. The good samaritan was apparently trying to identify which direction the perp was going in after the robbery in order to help the police. Unfortunately when he exited the business, the perp was still right around the corner and that's when the confrontation occurred. Thankfully the individual who got shot was incredibly lucky and survived the point blank gunshot to the face, although with permanent injuries.
I'm just hoping that if I'm ever in such a position I am better equipped and prepared to deal with the situation. For me, this incident serves as a visceral reminder of just what the consequences can be of making a mistake in such a dangerous moment.
It all reverts to training, which unfortunately most people do not have. In fact, the 16 hours of CC training in IL is nowhere NEAR the training it takes to be able to effectively engage in a CC altercation.
(06-27-2014, 03:58 PM)RJDSRT Wrote: [ -> ]It all reverts to training, which unfortunately most people do not have. In fact, the 16 hours of CC training in IL is nowhere NEAR the training it takes to be able to effectively engage in a CC altercation.
Exactly, I hate the fact that we have the 16 hours here. Everybody things because they have 4 times what WI demands, that they are ready. 16 hours is just a good start.
Now with CC in IL we really need to be aware of our surroundings and what is going on around us...you never know who may be carrying!
(06-27-2014, 09:59 PM)ThePinkLady Wrote: [ -> ]Now with CC in IL we really need to be aware of our surroundings and what is going on around us...you never know who may be carrying!
Yeah, well you need to start carrying your little pink gun PinkLady!
Nice screen name pinklady!!
I have to agree with the training argument. I have been shooting for 30 years and don't think I have what it takes in such a situation. I'll be taking the CCW classes in a couple weeks at RDA, and after that I will be taking the Self Defense in the home class as well. You can always learn something. Reflex training is good, but it is the clear thinking part that I need.
In one of the classes, they pointed out the more training you can show that you have, not only will you be better prepared, but it looks better in the event you ever have to go to court for anything related to use of your firearm. The more permits and certifications you have, shows you've been doing your homework.
I'm still a new shooter but my goal is to learn as much as I can and how to apply it all. And most important is like believein308 said, you have to have a clear head and know how to handle the situation.
Well you don't have all my bad habits to overcome. This makes the training even harder for old dogs. I should have taken these classes decades ago when I was in my twenties. I'm looking forward to the shotgun class.